I agree, The idea of percieved value seems to get a bit overdone with some companies. Im still using C1.1 because I simply cannot afford the high cost of C3 or C4. In the old days companies used to make the product as inexpensive as possible and go for large amounts of sales. But now companies get too greedy and then wonder why the product isnt selling. I sure as heck can't plop odwn hundreds of dollars for what is essentially a hobby for me. Maybe some day the companies putting out this software will stop being so darn greedy and give the average guy on the street a chance to have some of the cool toys. Sometimes I think Capitalism is a very bad idea...