i dont click "full render" now, as i dont trust my comp i do area renders, and since my latest pic i made was at 16384x12288 (2^14, 4:3) i figured my comp would die lol so doing area renders, and its a simple paste job in psp each pic new layer, white background is transparent worked great now you may ask why so big? no idea ^_^ i blame insanity anyways that might help you out with long renders so it wont stop in middle, plus you can go with stronger settings, and save between renders to avoid uh x_x