Wait a minute-- is that price for the electronic download or the box-- cause that could make a big difference? And besides, I do think I got a fairly good deal considering I waited till people were actually downloading-- or just about to download-- P6. May have been an early adopter, but I waited till all the hints were out in the open and I could see what the new stuff really amounted to-- and what some of the renders actually looked like from other than CL itself. Nah, I don't think I jumped too early-- still don't have my box yet, but I do know where my Shade serial number is.;)) Once it comes, I'm gonna spend the first week trying to read the darn manual anyway. Even upgrading from 5, this is a jump for my technically challenged brain. IBL lighting looks amazing but almost physically impossible-- Lighting without lights??--shows how dumb I am, huh? Maybe they could have waited a couple of weeks though-- just a couple, till more of us actually had our boxes. But, all in all, CL, the new CL, is not screwing up anywhere like the fiasco that was preordered Poser 5. And anybody who thinks so has got serious amnesia.:)) Emily