Wow!!! All you folks have given me a lot to mull over. I think the best I've learned here is to ask for WIP advice at this forum and post what I like, after all I'm the one getting the most pleasure of it (in its creation) and if only one person views then thats okay too. Now to work on my own textures....uhm....ok.....I don't have any modelling software sans Bryce.... bye now... got lots to learn tks everyone