They gouged the stuffing out of you. >wayne k Once again wayne, wrong. I never said I paid $1,000 for it. I said the software cost $1,000 at that time and it remains at that price level. I went the same route as you but I only paid $200. I got the MotionBuilder 4 ple for Free in 3D world magazine. I upgraded to 5 for $200 (3D World Magazine subscriber discount) and got version 5.5 as a free upgrade. So who got gouged? Again, a great deal on a fine piece of software!