I did a restart and I was able to get the reflections to work... When I was having problems the first thing I looked for was to see if raytracing was on... I also double checked the reflection nodes.... I also double checked to make sure there was a value set. After the restart, I set everything up the same... did a render and viola! I now have reflections. I have also had a little more luck with the lighting though I still can not get angle start to work. I have had some luck rendering the distance end and start but they are not really showing in the display window, this makes it extremely difficult to adjust settings to get decent lighting. P5 definitely works better when it comes to these settings. I found the distance settings were working when I was messing with the sketch rendering... I was able to use that as a reference to my adjustments. Maybe there is a reason the settings are different in P6... I just have not seen any reason why? Christian