I also don't want to give the wrong impression. I'm a (mostly) happy Poser 4 user, and from what I've seen from Poser 6 (and 5) people can do fantastic things with them. I really want to pick up Poser 6, I want to try out the face room, dynamic cloth and hair, hierarchichal libraries, multiple run times, all the crazy material nodes and the spiffy renderer, python integration, etc., etc. But as long as there's an error in there that causes a major program crash, and possibly data loss/corruption, it's a non-starter. The only thing a computer user really has is their data - if a program can't handle maintaining data it's not a very useful program. All the features in the world won't sell me something that can't do the basics. If you already own Poser 6 and don't dig it, send it back for a refund, that will get the message across loud and clear. Otherwise accept its limitations and work within them until such time as they get resolved (if they ever do). For myself I wait for the time the basics are solid, then I'll probably pony up. Unzipped