"I don't spend time at the usenet group. Perhaps I am missing out on something." Just to make a few points clear. 1. The Poser usenet group is a place where we police ourselves. There are no jackbooted thugs to tell you what you can and cannot talk about. Allmost every type of image is welcome and allmost every type of post is also welcome. We do not, however, contrary to popular belief, allow child pornography or copyrighted materials to be posted there. Both of those things will get you booted from your isp in a heartbeat and we will turn your asses in that fast ! You can read the Poser newsgroup Faq and Charter here: http://www.ab3dp.com/ ab3dp = alt.binaries.3d.poser 2. Don Tatro did not start the Model Challenge but did support the idea that we all at the NG came up with. Hawktoey and I bought some webspace and we run the MC out of there along with tutorials, the Faq and the Charter and also the Poser files which are little bio's of the people that post to the newsgroup. Chevy runs http://www.shar3d.com which houses models for those that don't have their own webspace. 3. Chevy, you know I'll do my part if it comes down to getting Rita setup. One way or another, she will be taken care of !