jonstark, Inject the pose, then set the Male morph to 1 at the body level. You'll bet a pretty rough male version. M3 is a great improvement over teh old V3 male. David beats him all to heck. Hiro (just released) is also a great figure. ...and if you want a good V3 male, wait a bit for Vittorio to come out at Daz. He's the old V3 male, with a new male source object, and takes all the V3 and David injection poses. He also comes with custom muscle, smoothing, to-old-V3 male proportions, and to-V3-base morphs. He'll can wear all the V3 clothing that has male morphs, and he doesn't look like "some bizzare sex change operation gone horribly wrong". God, I love that line... That's why I made Vittorio (grin).