smile damn girl, I wish it showed a healthy attitude toward my poor sore wrist ;p I know you were not meaning us Rena, just wanted to actually say I support you in what you say, and why I have struggled to do things as well as I know how and will keep right on doing so no matter what hoopla is ever raised :) (BTW those pointers on things to do with Saluda's face made all the difference ages back... got to get you to give Delilah's face a good looksee for me soon ;p) As to Delilah, we may have some final solutions that I stumbled onto with JeffH's help on the Eve battle... but at this stage of the game it appears we are gonna do both. There are those who adore Eve, and those who adore Posette, and I have a set of identical twins (almost) from the hip up and the hip down... excepting the hip :) So Im thinking of some sort of dual release, or something, give each his preference. But that Eve... that is one feisty woman, let me tell you, she threw me totally for a loop a few times now in trying to get her to sit still and behave during corrective surgery ;p