Jeff, I forgot about the merge option in the file choices. You are right, he does not want that one. Mike, you are right. It is a bear. You have to pay attention. It takes two stages to open a file and two stages to save one, And the business of always having to type OBJ on the end - man, what a pain. There are no other choices, it at least could have filled that in automatically. But it does stuff easily, that are either extremely difficult or nigh on to impossible in anything else.