MarcioAB, You are now reporting that in CATIA, "the graphics card can do it and alot more". Is this the best/only way of rendering in CATIA? Your point cannot be extrapalted, IMO, to "users graphic cards can render final images and animations in Poser at this time." I am also trying to urge the idea forward: is this what people are driving at? Having received an interface that can display the UI and working window in better-than-before realization, do people now expect that the current implementation of OpenGl is SUPPOSED to be a fully capable render engine? ::::: Opera :::::