This should almost end with that statement b2amphot! That is similar to what I see in the galleries. I would have liked saying those words,but my head and my hands cannot do that sometimes. You know that qupote up there... Two dummies patting eachothers backs does no growth ensue. What is a dummie?...a manequin to me. Of course they will never grow. But two people no matter what skill level,they are people.Could be they are the happiest go lucky in their own world. Even the smartest of people can learn from the least of educated. I am not saying this forum should not be proffesional,but as I have seen in my time here, there is only a handful of forum contributors who make a living at photography. I cherish that, as I learn more about the hobby I love. But also believe in those on an equal level sharing all the new found info around. Sure is nice seeing WIPs with the settings and methods used. Makes for good tutorials,no matter who posts it.

"The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the absence but in the mastery of his passions."