What, no Americam Express or Diner Card? What about Jerks using Paypal? Getting back to those so-called pesky flies and other bugs that appear to hang out at these nice internet picnics just to bother and be pests, we must not forget that spiders love flies, in fact their life consists of building websites to catch flies or bugs and nourish upon them so they can breed more spiders that then are able to build more and more webs. Unfortunatly some flies can get prickly or the odd stink bug gets caught and smells up the spiderweb or serves no purpose other than to disrupt that beautiful image, so they get quickly chewed up or stung and discarded. But I would like to suggest that although exchange of information and learning and teaching and buying and selling, all that stuff is great and all, however, of all people, artistic types also need to be able to truly be able to "communicate" and "vent" somehow and from all I have heard and seen here, this place and other similar places that have sprung up from "poser" artists hanging out together and sharing ideas and "thoughts", and squabbling and growing as a result, many of them too would have all been called flies now because they had opinions and screamed loudly and were boisterous and cared much more about freedom of expression than freedom to just be here. Taking any privalege away can easily be done here because this and other foundations were built very strong upon many, many flies and other bugs that became the strands of these websites.