lordstormdragon...you make a valid point...a vast majority of poser 'art' is garbage and for just the reasons you stated. Poser nudity has gotten to the point that in and of itself it has no interest to the serious artists here at Renderosity. The juveniles and perverts who have stumbled upon this site and click on the nude images...no matter how badly rendered they are and therefore drive the viewing numbers for these images are sadly all the fuel the creators of these low end postings need to keep on producing garbage. But even more ridiculous are the ones that do display some level of skill beyond the basic levels. The ones who obviiouly have taken time to paint hair and or clothes on their poser charactersthe ones who have shown some knowledge of lighting technique and or skilled postwork. But yet display images with characters that possess zombie stares and even worse yetglowing or lighted nostrils. Once or twice is understandable if in their zeal to show the world their latest advances in artistic level they may forget to fix the lighted nostrils problem, or they may not think it necessary to give the character an expression other than the initial out of the box stare. But there are regular artist here who get mega viewings and 'excellent' ratings who post images with these problems in plain view all the time. Now this I call pornographic...in the sense that they make a mockery of finished professionally done images, not to mention the bad rap that is generated about and hinders the program being taken seriously, that they were created in. These artists are the virtual version of the amateurish and leisurely Sunday afternoon artists whose art ends up gracing garage sales and yard sales all over the world. Lastly....pornography is not nudity, and vise versa. I've seen images here where the figures are nude, but yet their nakedness is not the point or the center of interest, but the action of the figure or the idea being expressed is. And vise versa I've seen fully clothed figures that are blatantly pornographic due to the way they have been posed or the way certain parts of their bodies have been exaggerated.