I do think your analogy with compilers for programming languages, while a bit strained, is appropriate. Perhaps the Joint Paremeters are better compared to a library than to the actual compiler: actual chunks of code which let you do useful stuff. In that light, Poser itself is closer to the compiler. And why is this important: I don't know the history of the business, and I'm not all that well up on the history of software licences in general. but there's a quarter century of history on personal computer software in general, and what the various rights mean. I don't know of the same solid history surrounding 3D graphics models. And if the arguments get serious both sides have to explain things to a judge. Now, I can see Daz thinking very seriously about this, and checking with lawyers, and maybe having to explain some things to lawyers. They might not be able to easily give the answer that was promised. Fair enough. I don't, myself, see why they couldn't have told you that. Interesting thought: is the Poser Setup Room legal under the DCMA? It lets you take data from a figure and apply it to a clothing item...