The appearance of that message was enough for me to unsubscribe from the Carrara egroups list. It appears to me that the calendar has been rolled back one year and I may as well forget that I sent in any bug reports and enhancement suggestions. The comment "a complete and structured beta-testing will be started later on" sounds ominous (to me). 'Later on' is not a good time to start beta testing this product. For the last year, on and off, I've been trying to learn this program (which I still believe has potential) but I could have used that time to learn another program and be growing with that program - poor choice on my part to stick with it. Even if I stick with Carrara and it does merge with Amapi, I suspect the end result will be considerably different for both programs - resulting in having to start from scratch learning yet another application. I'm still using Carrara - I've learned a lot of the workarounds. And I plan on trying out Amapi, but I'm uncertain about that direction, since it could be the same destination as Carrara. But that is a long way off and there are other modeling applications - maybe a year from now I'll be more proficient in one of them. John