I never said yelling wasn't fun (it's GREAT fun) or wasn't allowed in this forum. I simply pointed out that yelling at CL about the memory bug problem wasn't going to achieve anything. And it won't. CL said right up front that they were aware of the problem and were going to fix it. What more do you want them to do? That's not a rhetorical question. I'm really curious --EXACTLY what more do you want them to do? And I never told anybody to "shut up and go away." That IS rude, offensive and gauche. What I asked was, what more can be gained by shouting at CL to fix the problem? If they were ignoring us and not responding, then we'd have every right to raise the hue and cry. But the problem was announced, CL said they were aware of it and were trying to fix it -- end of story. We can discuss our common "memory bug" experiences or try to solve the problem temporarily ourselves by sharing information, but constantly shouting at CL to fix it gets us nowhere. And it smacks of gratuitous CL-bashing, which I find counter-productive and pointless. It's like shouting at Blackhearted to let go of his head. -jjsemp