@Incarnadine

I agree, C4D rules! I've got 8.5 + Advanced Render module which I gotta say, is really deep.

@lordstormdragon

"But, alas, for the record: mental ray smokes C4D, for rendering purposes."

When I was using version 6, I'd be inclined to agree with you - but not anymore. The Advanced Render module is really impressive, and I've yet to find "any" effect that can't be achieved with it.

lsd, you really should take another look at it, because if you're judging it from say, version 6, 7, or even 8 basic, you'll see it's a totally different beast now. Not only that, it's pretty swift as well.

@RobertJ

Hmmm... it's true I tell ya.

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006