Holly, here's a screen grab of the shader. The RGB of the green is shown and is based on actual CARC paint scans and samples. Army green is really flat, so I have added a bit of highlight just to accentuate the edges. Cinema4D has a shading model more advanced than Gauroud that is better for these type of surfaces but I have found C4Pro far easier to use and setup. If I can remember what Cinema4D calls the shader type than maybe Eric can add this to his Shaders Plus. My initial enthusiasm for Wireframe Pro has been tempered some what by models that have lots of fins and edges that just bogged down the shader room to the extent that I could not use wireframe pro with them. I'll try again with the Workstation I have at work. I would post more but the products I do are in development. I need more time at home to do more creative stuff. Thanks, Andrew