Aye, it's a good thing that Firefox came in when it did. Mozilla has sure put a big dent in Internet Explorer's usage, and mostly just by word-of-mouth. I think it's great that megalith companies like Adobe are growing fat, in the long run they will end up cracking like eggshells, and in the aftermath of THAT, perhaps we'll see the real technologies emerge... But then again, I've never really used any of Macromedia's software except for the viewing end of shock and flash...