Dan Whiteside is absolutely correct......with Puntomus' addition.....and two addumen, Kai also worked on the interface to Carrara which Metatools also bought out, combining Infini-D with Ray Dream. Kai is now back with Eric and working on Voyager....and is helping Daz launch Bryce 5.5, a sister program to the new Daz Studios ( a Poser content program) ~m