Boy I wish I had read your post before I did my last one, I used paint shop pro, selected what I wanted in the thumbnail, copy, paste as new image, and then resize (using the pixel option at 200 pixes, and voila...) not as big as some but definately bigger than what I used to use and since I've been here awhile...it's not such a newbie question...thumbnail post pop up quite often here. Almeida