ok will look into it ... i'm looking at a bow, quiver, arrow, dagger, and sheath and i have 3 texturesets i want to build for each item. I had thought about figureing out mat poses .. i just hadn't got that far .. lol Then again i also want to morph the strap on the quiver to make it fit p4 fem and male, vic3 and mike3, and maybe mayadol and aiko.. i'm not real sure how i'm gonna pull that off without moving the object .. this may be interesting ... :) Thank you Vilian :) I'm glad to finally be giving some stuff back to the community ..