Why can't you diehards at least accept someone's opinions about a new release without thrashing it in someway? Not everyone likes bells and whistles and not everyone wants to spend hours upon hours of learning a new program and not everyone is going to want the new version and not everyone is going to be able to afford it and not everyone is going to put up with the the bugs the new version has. People use Poser for different reasons. I still use PP and have no desire to ever upgrade. I use it as a hobby. I'm not out to impress anyone with what versions I have. That was the most 'thoughtout' review of P6 I've read on here so far. (just my humble opinion)