"Well, that plus getting Shade, all for $149." Bloody hell, I've been so busy I'd forgotten all about Shade - which, of course, is why I went for the SE package. Mind you, Shade LE is only $49 for Poser4 owners, so that makes curiosity pretty expensive. As you say, it's only money. ;-) The Poser4 style working I've done in P6 hasn't brought out the bugs so far, so I'm gradually transferring the interesting parts of my Runtime over for P6 organising. If the bug free P4-in-P6 operations continue, I'll be phasing P4 out to background pretty fast. I really like the 'take it or leave it' approach you can adopt with nearly all the new stuff. I was expecting to be forced onto the bottom of a learning curve, but the way they've done it means I can actually join the curve in different places at different times at my leisure.