heyas; ghost.... um, i seem to have a left and right hand. :) i think! jeff: but what i mean is... can you tell the obj switch dial to switch all the pieces you want switched, manually? like... i guess a cross between ecm and geomswitching -- where there would be alt geoms in all the pieces that point to one dial to switch them? man, this is getting nuts. i think i'll do it an easier way. :)