Jaager, I'd like to put your advice to work for me also. However, I'm afraid I couldn't decipher the following secret code: "You can make and use nozzels (image hose ?) for skin. a.b.p.s.r. is a good source for skin, especially S.J.Hicks' closeups (DDG In Tight stuff). " I have Painter 5 so I know about image hoses, but, I'm not sure how to go about using it for skin. Do you have a kind of generic skin hose? If so, care to share it? (please, please!) What's a.b.p.s.r? Where are S.JHicks' closeups, and what's a DDG In Tight stuff? I'm kinda new to Renderosity so maybe I just haven't been around long enough to catch on to all the shorthand. (Just kidding!) (gggggggggggg)