Someone must like it or something. ;^) :chuckle: I like the "options and extras", so that characters can be a bit more unique (I prefer Hero System, since it is much less cardboard-templated, but the options allow for a more complex character). The main advantage of D&D is that you can whip up new characters pretty quickly for convention games. The shoe-horning bugged me, though. Why should bards be thieves? Why should druids be a religious class? Carolly