'We have tried several times to have OT forums for general discussions unrelated to art but they have not been successful so we decided after closing the last one (The Den) that we won't be having an OT forum in the future. ' Not successful?....Tell it like it is...We're all grownups here and by and large we're all smart. We all get enough spin when politicians open their mouths. The OT forums were removed for commercial reasons and for fear of some delicate souls being offended. That's fine, it's Renderosity's site and their decision but...unsuccessful, don't think so :) Right on Mon1alpha. Exactly right. C&D was wildly successful if you consider being successful drawing many members to the forum. Number of posts, etc. They didn't close it due to lack of involvement. C&D was closed, as you say, because of commercial reasons. They were uncomfortable with a forum where one could speak their mind. They were afraid that someone might get their widdle feewings hurt. Same reason they are doing this. OMG someone might actually speak their mind about a subject, can't have that for gods sake,it doesn't generate income after all. Rosity, where its all about the ............ MONEY! You know its really funny. Rosity can't handle an OT or C&D forum, but other sites seem to manage to do so quite nicely. Makes one wonder if its the OT forum that's the problem or the staff running it eh?