Really guys nothing has changed in this forum. This was a "reminder" not a change. The cc forum has always been designed for what is listed above in the header and it was beginning to get buried in OT post and not being used for its actual intent. Simple. As far as the OT forums we have tried to have here, they weren't successful because there were too many members that couldn't and wouldn't have civil discussions without turning it in to a major personal attack on someone else. This caused lots of problems for the mods trying to keep some kind of civil order in there and it turned all their energy into burn out and it got to the point that no one wanted to deal with that forum. There are so many debate forums people can go to discuss religion, politics, that type of thing and they are made for that type of discussion, this is an art community. Thanks Stacey