that would be in your opinion... personally i have met many artists here from around the world & shared a great deal in the galleries & smaller forums & if i'm being naive so be it... i probably have little room to talk since i don't "spend $ at the mall" & i'm grateful RR has such a diverse selection of computer art of all levels... you get what you put into the site & vice a versa... i really have little time left for an OT forum... but i do believe this is still a "community" ...shame it has to be dragged through the dirt so often...