Wow, you really described the shirt I'm making well! But more importantly, I know what these items are really called now. Good deal. I'm modeling these based off some photos I googled. The cassock in the clearest photo was purple, but I thought that looked too fruity, so I changed it to gray. But, with gray, it didn't render too well, so I picked red for the test renders. It'll probably be black when I'm done. Also, on your say, I'll skip the necklace/rosary thing, whatever it's called. I really appreciate the input!