Oh, I cross posted with you, Tyger_purr. Just having fun :) Bottomline, I consider the sale of an application like Poser for under $800 essentialy a gift from the company. I have little discretionary money (No this is not CL's problem)... so it is hard on me that I paid for a BETA. But that said I think the BETA is a bargin at $149USD. No real complaints from me. But if you sell a defective product it seems honorable to make it good without putting undue burdons on the consumer. The product was not advertized as defective, and it was not advertised as requiring broadband... you know there are actually people without internet, after running a major site begun in 1992 I actually got rid of any connection until 1999 and then went off line again from 2000-2003. If a product is only for the haves then that should be indicated. Anyway, it is kind of you to try to help.