momodot, thanks for the info, its really good :) A lilagree and disagree. Fcors, Jessi isnt totally human. You want to find in her toonish details? You find, sure. But who not? V3 is human? Steph petite? She-Freak? Im a Poser vampire, so I have tasted all of them (well, Laura still not, but as I have seen certain adult morphs my opinion have changed about her usability, I tell you when my VISA revives). If you want to do a pure anatomical study of all the Poser characters all around the world, all that girls would have serious trouble to graduate. Toons? Sure, all of them But ... a disaster? I believe (and its my opinion, fcors yours is absolutely respectable) that Jessi is "as is" the most human and usable of all the poser characters and by default. All the DAZ3Ds you need to apply textures, morphs, magnets to give them a real human look (I would pray for Vicky4 have a default texture pack, but Im sure that the base figure will have the usual plane colours and youll need to buy a V4 Ultimate Texture Pack ... money is money). All the Poser default girls, the same. I dont say that Jessi is perfect. Only that Jessi is the best out-of-box until this moment. And yes, you can see my renders detail by detail (I always draw bigger breast than default ones, sorry, ask Mr. Freud ;) ), and the pores, and the chip ears, and etc. But is Jessi out-of-box, without any more (well, in "Roar" I put a iris texture by France, little change). I opened Judy (and I swear, one of the first times since I have P5) to do some tests in order to answer you. Well, I dont post them here, because my vomits didnt allow to save them. Judy have a forced face as Michael Jacksons one, the proportions are ridiculous, and these lips ... well, if I use a golden texture I would use her as a Tut-Ank-Amon mask, but I cant find in her any more. A real body?. I dont like a character that I only can render on a back view hiding her face ... or with a paper bag in her head. All out this is only visceral feelings of each one. JudyFanClub against JessiFanClub. War. Blood. Death. Blah Fcors, all of this is purely relative, because the artists eye can do human all character (I have seen renders with special point of camera, lighting, etc, where MayaDoll looks human). Jessi have a big head, enormous hands, Cheetah Chimp ears, crater pores and all that nice features ... but she is until the moment the most usable character out-of-box. And sorry, Judy is a pain. I promise you that as penitence Ill try to draw a pic with that Frankesteins Monster Bride ... but Im afraid that when daily Ill have a great idea for a pic and Ill mentally search a character for it, Judy will remain under her tombstone for me And hey, thanks for the six girls pic, I imagine me trying something like this and in my Poser would appear the message "ARE YOU NUTS??? I CAN DIE!!! GO AWAY WITH YOUR HAMSTER AND DONT PRESS OK!!!" :D

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