Fazzel: "when there isn't anything good on TV" ... you must use it a LOT [heh] qhelmer: I have been suspecting that there might be a lot of that [the pin-up that is, grin] given the number of poser characters you can get with loads of ability to morph them to provide a wide range of body types, etc - which would seem just plan sensible if you want to be able to do animation with a wide range of characters, except that since the body morphs don't translate to the clothing, they are meaningless as soon as you put clothing on the model, therefore it seems clear that they are intended for creating nudes [not passing any judgements here, just an observation]. If one wants variety in non-nude characters one needs to have morphable clothing, not morphable models - well, except for the faces of course. I can appreciate the value of a wide range of nude models, though I can tell you I was disappointed when I first started working with Poser and discovered that the clothing didn't morph as well [heh] The animation based on Silent Hill sounds interesting. I've never played Silent Hill but I have seen a demo of it and I've always found that sort of thing interesting.