Wolf: ROTFLMAO! Damn... and you accuse me of stumbling into a thornbush? ;) BTW folks, in the cases shown thus far, if a product shows blatant flaws right there in the promo render, there's really no need to waste the money, now is there? Let's pull up that woman with her textured-on vagina slid-up completely out of place... why on Earth would I have to waste my money on it when I can see the problem right there in the promo render? Now, ask yourself what folks who have genkits or genital morphs on their figures are supposed to do with that, or what folks who want to spend at least a little bit of time on making a realistic-looking figure are supposed to do w/ it... How about the second female figure...why on earth would I have to purchase a product advertised as a "glamor girl", when the promo render shows breast morphs don't even look human, and the eyes look 40x larger than any normal human eyes should (and for a non-anime human figure built to "high quality standards"? WTF, 'mano?) ...the third item is a rather common complaint, and again, the promo renders show it. I can certainly understand a lot of bruised egoes in that department though, because it's so damned common to do it. Now MAB @ the DAZ fora brought up a very good point... but in her case, she actually 1) took the time and paid attention to re-coloring each texture, and 2) didn't try to pawn the lot off onto the public as a set of different textures. In these three exceptional cases, it's rather obvious, and while the third is certainly open for debate, the first two really ought to get a tester or two reprimanded. And don't you worry... there's lots of other sites where similar conditions exist. My job is to verify which is which now (and which are not), and then go about tearing them down in a way that, for lack of a better term, makes sense. "That may or may not have been your intention, and I can't and won't speak for you and/or read your mind." Well, in case you're curious, everything is going as I expected it would thus far. A lot of the lesser merchants got defensive and shrill, mods got nervous in degrees, some folks (including some merchants) cheered, other folks contributed wonderful ideas as to how to go about this whole thing, and Sean got to nurse his grudge a little (evil grin)... (that last part was just bonus, because yes, I'm a noecon asshole and it drives him nuts. but I'll stop that tangent before it gets too far off course... :) ) Most importantly though, I got something even more valuable out of the whole thing: I get to gauge customer dissatisfaction, and accumulate a mountain of raw material from which to do something about it. Everyone who got to read the discussions got something valuable too, though I'm loathe to say it because the term is so damned abused: raised awareness of a problem that everyone knows about, but no one really wants to talk about. Now, I get the task of actually doing something with it all.It'll be work, but I think it'll be fun... and hopefully it'll be useful. One final thing, though: Morriganshadow wrote "THIS is the only community where Penguinisto's post would have turned into a "slam the merchants" fest, and fast." ...you know? I honestly don't say this out of malice, but it really needs to be said: It's pretty sad when the PTB actually have that large of a credible fear of complaints against their own brokered products. Maybe instead of cringing whenever someone brings it up, perhaps a bit of overhauling QA is in order? /P