Francemi: For shame! Golf is not a hobby - it's a religion [heh] well, at least it is with the golfers I know. I used to live in Quebec many years ago and we drove weekly from Ste. Jean to Greenfield Park [south shore from Montreal] and along the way we passed several golf courses and I used to see people out in the dead of winter, walking in deep snow and using bright orange golf balls. Didn't matter the weather or time of year. [heh] Poser doesn't HAVE to be expensive ... I have my trusty Poser 4.0, no upgrades, and a couple books that people gave me for christmas and now Wings3D to help me build props, etc, and it has served me well - the only real cost was the origenal program.... [yeah, and if you think I wouldn't be buying a thousand other things if I had the cash....... grin]