Bad news... The stupid thing is still doing it, I made the terrain 1024 by the terrain editor as stated. Then press clear and populated the image and still puts the trees in to black area. I had enough with this, e-on is getting a bug report. DigReal, are you sure you are not running the beta.. because it still doesn't work. Dig you change the overall density or scalling of my scene. I have seen some cases it is ok at different density, the main issues is that it does not work as I enter and I believe its correct. Stewart