It is what it is. It's not just a renderosity problem though. I post at deviantart because they have a print service and I can sell my art there. I spend almost all of my time there and see similar things happening there as it does here. No site is perfect in every way. On a side note, it is disappointing that when I do get around to visiting here, I have to go through the entire gallery looking for the best images. It would be nice if the Hot 20 was the best being posted, but it's not, and doubtful it ever will be. I'm a firm believer in the saying "If you are happy with where you are, you'll stay there forever." There have been countless threads started over the Hot 20 being a popularity contest. Months (years?) later, it still is. The majority of people seem to feel that having it as a popularity contest is what it should be. The only way it's going to be about the best art is if people change themselves and only vote for the truly best images. Good luck with that, history has proven otherwise. The only thing I think should be changed that can be changed is rename it. It should be called the Popular 20, because that's what it is. A rose is a rose, call it what it has become. I do feel for you Keith. A lof your art deserves to be there and more than not isn't. I used to feel that way until I totally gave up on the hot 20. I'm at the point now that if nothing I ever post makes it there, I'm just as fine as if it does.