thought you'd might like to see what this looks like without the tower cut off. well here are a few images. i know these images aren't that good. i did my best though. would have stayed longer but we were already late to visit our friends. data for this image: f 3/5 1/5 sec. ISO 64 no tripod kemal and i had dinner at a seafood restauant on the river at sunset. i ran outside and snapped this one while kemal was ordering for us.