...you're expecting a Rolls Royce at a Yugo price. I run a successful business and probably look at things a bit differently than you. CL has to sell a LOT of product to pay for just one programmer. Forget 'profit'. Think about it. Do the math. As a business man when I look at Poser I think, "how the heck do they deliver the tool set they do so inexpensively?" When you say you "expected much more" I have to say 'then buy something else', but what else? Nobody has put up a good alternative to Poser so far. It's interesting that Poser has been around for such a long time and during that time not one solid alternative has been developed. (D|S can't even be considered yet. Perhaps in the future.)