and as an FYI for Deecey Vicki 2 was released on 5/11/01 Thanks, cooler! The earliest EXE file I had was dated 10/27/2001, which was in conflict with the CR2 date. There was a time there that I lost a whole bunch of files because of a hard drive crash, so I had to have a order CD burned. A lot of my exe files have a date of 10/27, which is why I picked the CR2 dates in some cases.