Antonia: Go for it - people at SF cons will buy ANYTHING! and at just about any price. I think it's the sleep dep that does it [heh] I used to be heavily involved in cons - just remember - don't volunteer to help anybody with anything while there - if you see someone who needs some help, by all means help them, but do it unofficially. The moment you actually draw attention to the fact that you might help out with something, you'll not have a second to do your own thing for the rest of the con [and if anything goes wrong - it was always someone who volunteered that gets the blame - heh] it been years since the con I was at - a VCon, was #24? Well, it was at least 20 years ago I think, though I still talk with some people who are always involved with it. Acadia: I agree completely! Just tell them you're an artist, not a xerox. I believe in doing the art and then if it catches the fancy of someone, you can talk about any business you might be willing to conduct. As long as it wstarts with you doing a piece that YOU wanted to do. Art is nothing if not an expression of what is inside the artist. [well, at least that's my view] Oh, I noticed a person had posted an animated GIF in the gallery - now I'm not sure why, but for some reason I had assumed that you could only put stills in the gallery [guess it's because of other sites I used to go to a few years back who didn't like having animated stuff] - anyway, so I decided to grab a short bit of combat from the animation I'm working on - the GIF is not the same as an AVI, but it does give an idea at least. It's slowed down a bit because without sound and context, it just happens too fast - the actual animation is about 3.5 seconds long - just the beginning of the fight scene - and I reduced it to 27 frames and made a GIF ... had some troubles with the pallette but it's close to the original. I use poser to animate just characters and key props [ie, things that are being handled by the characters and would be a pain to add it later] and then I do a lot of post production so by the time I'm done, it's only about 50% Poser stuff and that 50% doesn't look much like Poser stuff [heh] Actually, I only know what Poser 4.0 does [I gather much changed since that came out] but the version I have just doesn't have the kind of feel that fits with my artistic vision - but having the people animated speeds up my vision a LOT. Anyway, I'll be posting that in about an hour [already u/l a picture today and the rules say only 1 free pic per day in the gallery] I think I'll be posting it in 2D Fantasy ... yes, I know Poser is a 3D program, but since I started animating using Photoshop to draw individual frames and what I do now is still basically the same look and feel [just done much quicker] the GIF seems to be more 2D gallery stuff ... if I post stuff that is mostly just rendered with little or no post production work, then I'll class it as 3D. Just a matter of how I see the stuff I do.