There are a lot of reasons to get Lightwave 6.5, I have it and I'm learning it. But there are also a LOT of people here that are creating some amazing stuff using Poser and painting programs. I think Poser stands on it's own, and it's a GREAT program, don't slam it by putting a picture of Annanova in here to compare. You need to also post the pictures in the book that explain HOW she came to be, and how much work she is, compared to being able to start with a complete model and work from there. I intend to use Poser with Lightwave, but I will also use it alone, it's one of my favorite programs. 8^) Marque