I'm not against Poser, as I have used it for years, and it is an integral part of assembling characters. But if you are an accomplished actor or musician, you eventually want to "move up" to a level where your skills get "rewarded". Lightwave 6.5 is the "reward" as far as I am concerned. Poser is great for setting up clothes, animations, etc. but LW gives them the chance to "star". Why do you think Curious Labs made Pro-Pack? It's all about MOVING UP to a Professional Level... Some people may gasp at paying $500 for a plug-in, but when those nice big checks arrive that you must lug down to the bank- that have you on the beach on Maui sipping a drink, you will understand what a good investment you made...