Awesome! I already mentioned using Bryce for making great textures in another thread, so I won't rant about it too much, my friend. It certainly seems that Carrara has come a long, long way since the Ray Dream days... If I wasn't already knee-deep in Maya, I'd certainly take it up. As it stands, there's really no reason for me not to anyway, as I won't be wasting a penny on further versions of Bryce. Yeah, I know : nay-sayers suck. But once again, I am making MY decision based off of my desire to actually make a career out of 3D graphics. And there is simply NO money in Bryce-work. It renders far too slow for production animation, and is years behind every other program on the market, in every possible way save texturing. And it makes me feel vomitous to say this, but VUE is even better than Bryce now... (Yuck!) I'll go so far as to alienate myself from everyone in saying that if "you people" are actually EXCITED about Bryce 5.5 being called an "upgrade", then you really are mired in the swamps of mediocrity. One look at the 'Rosity Bryce Gallery will confirm my suspicions. And again, all that said, I'll keep using Bryce 5 for as long as I need it! And it really does make texturing a snap, knowing the DTE inside and out has taken my texture-making to whole new levels. So at this point, Bryce for ME has reverted to it's initial value : a simple Photoshop plug-in. For me it's a Maya texturing weapon, for MadMax it's just hard-drive filler, and for the rest of us here, well no hard feelings and I hope to see some excellent artwork yet!