Aye, all this disappointment is nothing new my friends. Do you remember Bryce 4? Can anyone think of ONE better thing about Bryce 4 than Bryce 3d? What about Bryce 5 itself? You can count the improvements on one hand. So it comes as no surprise to ME that Bryce 5.5 requires only 2.5 fingers to count all of it's improvements. Bryce started as a plug-in for Photoshop, to simulate "Bryce Canyon" type environments. Back THEN, Metacreations really did kick ass, they made all kinds of cool stuff, including the Kai's Power Tools sets (of which Bryce was part of, originally). They also made Poser, Headline Studio, Painter 3D (Detailer?) and a host of really intuitive and fun programs. The vision which propelled them forward is simply NOT around anymore. The only big upgrade Bryce has EVER seen was from version 2 to version 3, which introduced a whole slew of new features (keyframing animation, being the foremost "it moves!" feature...) But I'm not angry at all, regardless of how sour my text may seem. You get what you pay for, and if you buy the cheapest 3D package on the market, expect the cheapest and lowest-par results. Elitism aside, it's a tool and in the right hands one can make beautiful imagery in Bryce. Bryce brings 3D to the masses, and without it many of us simply wouldn't be doing 3D graphics at all... Keep at it, my friends! And I'm done for today on anti-DAZ sentiment. Thank you for actually reading my blatherings!