LOLsounds like Bryce 2 all over again around here lately (geez that was really bad)! And whats with all the new comers to this forum lately, been hiding in the outskirts until you got burnt or here from other forums and want to throw stones? Anyhow, glad to finally see whos been lurking. I said it many, many, many months ago when DAZ first bought Bryce and announced they where intending for a Bryce 5.5, that I would wait to get the fallout from that 5.5 experiment then hang on until Bryce 6 when theyve learned their lessons from Bryce 5.5. Im still planning to hold true to my course until then. They really have to come out with something innovative, competitive, stable and reasonably priced to re-capture the market. Just buying an established name brand product doesnt mean you can live off its good name and laurels. So far, its just an upgrade and not a very good one at that from all reviews. This being the case, DAZ will have to double their efforts in an all out attempt in regaining the ground lost from years of neglect of this popular, reasonably priced piece of software. Just like Hollywood: new film comes out and despite all good hearted attempts from all parties involved to produce a winner, the critics come out swinging and lashing on to every negativity that dares to surface. Its a tough crowd to please but then again, its a tough business theyve decided to pursue. At the end, after all is said and done, it comes down to the harsh light of winners and failures.