Actually,....I've been working(still learning) with C4D 8.1,........very nice out of box render engine,......HDRI(with advanced renderer module)is very easy to use, especially if you have HDR Shop(free from USC) to make your own HDRI's. Seeing as how Bryce 5.5 DOES have dual processor support, I will be buying it when the boxed version is released. I still love Bryce, as it is capable of producing very painterly images, and I like that. Max please don't abandon Bryce altogether,........you have made some very valuable contributions to the app. Does this mean you won't be coming to the meet in NYC ? I hope not.

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